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February 7th, 2010, 08:50 PM
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$1,000,000 (one million) dollar houses in Detroit
so we've all read all the doom and gloom stories, median price of homes in detroit in December was $7,500, homes selling for $100, $10, $1.......
I was wondering, are there, and if they exist, where would they be, the $1,000,000 and up homes in Detroit, and only Detroit, not GP or Birmingham....
even some properties on Lakeshore in GP now are having a hard time fetching $1,000,000
are there any $1,000,000 properties in Detroit?
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February 7th, 2010, 09:24 PM
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The only house I can think of that might be close is the former Cardinal's house (aka John Salley's house) in Palmer Woods. Or perhaps the old Fisher Mansion (Hare Krishna house), which is I believe the largest standing house in Detroit, although there's really no neighborhood around it. Then, oh, I don't know... Manoogian?
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February 7th, 2010, 09:30 PM
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February 7th, 2010, 09:35 PM
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450 Keelson.... isn't that were..... ahhh, never mind!!!!
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February 7th, 2010, 10:29 PM
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I like how the second link (Riverfront Dr.) shows a $1,000,000 property with one listed in the same building on the right for $139,000.
Hmmm...
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February 7th, 2010, 10:35 PM
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I believe the house on 450 Keelson is in the same gated community where Mayor Bing was/is renting a house.
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February 8th, 2010, 06:51 AM
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Ok, lets move on over to the west side that still has large areas of big foot homes... I wonder what the prices of some of the homes off the two golf course go for, like the like that stretch of homes on Fairview between 6 and 7 mile one home of which was originally owned by Don Barden, or further north: Palmer Woods... any big ticket homes there? I recall that big Albert Kahn house setting on Boston or Edison near Woodward was asking $500,000 at one point, but I think it was not sold...
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Originally Posted by Goose
so we've all read all the doom and gloom stories, median price of homes in detroit in December was $7,500, homes selling for $100, $10, $1.......
I was wondering, are there, and if they exist, where would they be, the $1,000,000 and up homes in Detroit, and only Detroit, not GP or Birmingham....
even some properties on Lakeshore in GP now are having a hard time fetching $1,000,000
are there any $1,000,000 properties in Detroit?
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February 8th, 2010, 12:01 PM
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[quote=izzyindetroit;118085]What is the story behind Keelson??
The Keelson property was featured on an episode of "Paranormal State". The owner claimed it was haunted by the ghosts of slaughtered Indians and a previous owner who was angry there was a sex club on the property run by renters. Once the sex equipment was removed, the paranormal "activity" quieted down.
I don't know a thing about the haunting, be we looked at the home years ago. It was lovely. It wasn't priced nearly as high as it is today. We looked at it during the "boom".
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February 8th, 2010, 12:33 PM
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I was a docent at an event at the Bishop's Residence (Salley Mansion) many years ago when it was used for a decorator showcase. It is an AMAZING home, complete with a beautiful private chapel off the Bishop's private quarters. Truly a treasure of the city.
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February 8th, 2010, 02:28 PM
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Embarassing to say but I was on that program. Grayhaven, where 450 Keelson exists is because of landfill and earthworks from 1913 to 1923 when platted.
The Indian battle was the Fox Creek Massacre. I consider that land from Connor Creek to Fox Creek sacred land. The land looks after itself. All development projects have failed and will continue to fail
The previous owner of that house out lived three wives. If it is haunted I would look into their deaths.
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February 8th, 2010, 05:48 PM
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I like how the second link (Riverfront Dr.) shows a $1,000,000 property with one listed in the same building on the right for $139,000.
Hmmm...
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A) less than HALF the square footage...
B) 19 floors LOWER than the penthouse level...
just sayin...
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February 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM
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^ When I saw that listing, I thought that the saying "there's a sucker born every minute" will be proven true if they actually get a buyer at that price.
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February 8th, 2010, 06:39 PM
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stretch of homes on Fairview between 6 and 7 mile
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That would be Fairway Dr. There are some very nice houses on that street, but I doubt any of them would fetch anything close to a million under current circumstances.
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February 8th, 2010, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltdave
A) less than HALF the square footage...
B) 19 floors LOWER than the penthouse level...
just sayin...
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Right, but that's a huge jump in price.
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February 8th, 2010, 08:08 PM
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Thanks for the correction... yeah there are a couple of homes boarded up on that block (tragic). I wonder what the Don Barden house "once" went for it has a huge circular drive and carraige house I believe.
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Originally Posted by mwilbert
That would be Fairway Dr. There are some very nice houses on that street, but I doubt any of them would fetch anything close to a million under current circumstances.
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February 8th, 2010, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sumas
Embarassing to say but I was on that program. Grayhaven, where 450 Keelson exists is because of landfill and earthworks from 1913 to 1923 when platted.
The Indian battle was the Fox Creek Massacre. I consider that land from Connor Creek to Fox Creek sacred land. The land looks after itself. All development projects have failed and will continue to fail
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^^^^ where can i find some more info about this? Yes i googled it...but if you have any where you can point me for some good info i would be much o bliged.
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February 8th, 2010, 08:29 PM
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Last week there was a listing for a Fairway Drive home on trulia.com, since pulled, but it listed the 7,000 square foot home, which faced the golf course, for $165,000. The listing also showed that the last time it sold was in 2006 for something like $750,000. It was a gorgeous French-inspired mansion.
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February 9th, 2010, 05:01 AM
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Not sure what you are looking for the Indian Battle or the history of Grayhaven? Pretty sure I've posted both histories on past threads.
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February 9th, 2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sumas
Not sure what you are looking for the Indian Battle or the history of Grayhaven? Pretty sure I've posted both histories on past threads.
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The Indian Battle...I will search the site thanks
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February 9th, 2010, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Tyson
Last week there was a listing for a Fairway Drive home on trulia.com, since pulled, but it listed the 7,000 square foot home, which faced the golf course, for $165,000. The listing also showed that the last time it sold was in 2006 for something like $750,000. It was a gorgeous French-inspired mansion.
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If that home previously sold for $750k, there's a pretty good chance that it was a mortgage fraud deal. That would explain the "drastic" price reduction.
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February 9th, 2010, 02:24 PM
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Not sure what you are looking for the Indian Battle or the history of Grayhaven? Pretty sure I've posted both histories on past threads.
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Yea, you posted a lot of info that most do not know about.
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February 9th, 2010, 07:43 PM
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The highest valued million dollar plus house in Detroit??
That's an easy one....
5510 Woodward Ave..... otherwise known as the Hecker-Smiley Mansion... at nearly 21,000 sq. ft. (with a 5,700 sq. ft. carriage house) currently the residence of Charfoos & Christiansen Law Firm. But it's up for sale... and the asking price is several million (can't find the sale listing)....
http://www.michbar.org/journal/pdf/pdf4article359.pdf
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February 9th, 2010, 08:52 PM
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Wow! That's incredible!
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Originally Posted by Tyson
Last week there was a listing for a Fairway Drive home on trulia.com, since pulled, but it listed the 7,000 square foot home, which faced the golf course, for $165,000. The listing also showed that the last time it sold was in 2006 for something like $750,000. It was a gorgeous French-inspired mansion.
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February 9th, 2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gistok
The highest valued million dollar plus house in Detroit??
That's an easy one....
5510 Woodward Ave..... otherwise known as the Hecker-Smiley Mansion... at nearly 21,000 sq. ft. (with a 5,700 sq. ft. carriage house) currently the residence of Charfoos & Christiansen Law Firm. But it's up for sale... and the asking price is several million (can't find the sale listing)....
http://www.michbar.org/journal/pdf/pdf4article359.pdf |
Christensen
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February 9th, 2010, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gistok
The highest valued million dollar plus house in Detroit??
That's an easy one....
5510 Woodward Ave..... otherwise known as the Hecker-Smiley Mansion... at nearly 21,000 sq. ft. (with a 5,700 sq. ft. carriage house) currently the residence of Charfoos & Christiansen Law Firm. But it's up for sale... and the asking price is several million (can't find the sale listing)....
http://www.michbar.org/journal/pdf/pdf4article359.pdf |
don't think that would be considered residential anymore, the high price tag is probably for commercial aspects......
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February 10th, 2010, 01:31 AM
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Christensen
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Figures....  Christiansen is the name of the family that owns LEGO Inc. Both Danish... Christensen is (or was) the Danish Consul General, thus making the building the Danish Consulate as well as a law firm. One year (back in the 90s) they wanted me to do a LEGO display at the mansion for Christmas... but I didn't have the time with both parents ailing at the time.
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February 10th, 2010, 01:41 AM
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don't think that would be considered residential anymore, the high price tag is probably for commercial aspects......
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That's true... and Woodward Ave. frontage adds to the value.
The law firm has kept the home pretty much intact... it could revert back to residential relatively easily (but hardly likely)... except the basement and carriage house were renovated for office use... and I'm not sure about the 3rd floor.....
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March 1st, 2010, 12:17 AM
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The Indian battle was the Fox Creek Massacre. I consider that land from Connor Creek to Fox Creek sacred land. The land looks after itself. All development projects have failed and will continue to fail]
You may want to get your facts straight, the state marker for the battle happens to be east of fox creek on Windmill Pointe. Funny thing I think that area has done quite well for itself over the years.
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March 7th, 2010, 09:29 PM
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ooooooh, too funny.
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March 8th, 2010, 12:23 AM
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p69, my theory is that GP fought to have the Fox Indian Massacre historic marker on their side of things so that way if it ever became a popular spot for historians to look at, they'd be turned away if they didn't possess a prized Grosse Pointe resident's pass that would allow them to view it. *tongue only halfway in cheek; I won't put anything past GP city regulations aimed at keeping "outsiders" away from their precious streets*
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March 8th, 2010, 07:29 AM
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p69, my theory is that GP fought to have the Fox Indian Massacre historic marker on their side of things so that way if it ever became a popular spot for historians to look at, they'd be turned away if they didn't possess a prized Grosse Pointe resident's pass that would allow them to view it. *tongue only halfway in cheek; I won't put anything past GP city regulations aimed at keeping "outsiders" away from their precious streets*
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The only things that "outsiders," as you put it, are kept out of are the residents only city parks which are entirely funded by city tax dollars paid by the residents. Anybody, resident or not, is free to drive the "precious streets" as you call them.
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March 8th, 2010, 09:02 AM
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The only things that "outsiders," as you put it, are kept out of are the residents only city parks which are entirely funded by city tax dollars paid by the residents. Anybody, resident or not, is free to drive the "precious streets" as you call them.
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Well, to be fair, they are slightly controversial in that they benefit from not being taxed (like a public park) but they are not open to the "public". Someone took that to the Mich Supreme court a while back. Obviously the GPs (and its not just the GPs that have these..St Clair Shores comes to mind) won.
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March 8th, 2010, 01:52 PM
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Well, to be fair, they are slightly controversial in that they benefit from not being taxed (like a public park) but they are not open to the "public". Someone took that to the Mich Supreme court a while back. Obviously the GPs (and its not just the GPs that have these..St Clair Shores comes to mind) won.
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I believe that in the SCS case it was because they were using State money on their parks, whereas the GP parks are funded entirely by local tax dollars.
Regardless, what purpose does it serve to force local parks that are beautifully maintained by local residents that care to be open to the public, attracting people that could give a crap. This doesn't make the crappy parks any better, only serves to make the nice parks crappy...... thats what Metro parks are for - everyone....
We go to our local parks to socialize with other residents we chose to live around, to have our kids play with other kids in their schools that we chose to support with our tax dollars and time....
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March 8th, 2010, 02:24 PM
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wintersmommy, I was a guest at a party during the holidays at 1500 Seminole. The hosts (who shall remain nameless) were incredibly gracious, and every inch of the home looked lovely and impeccably maintained. The pictures don't even do it justice.
So when are you putting your offer in? *smile*
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March 8th, 2010, 08:01 PM
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ooooooh, too funny.
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I have no problem with GP keeping their parks open to resident's only. They pay the taxes and, as far as the land being tax free, only their city looses money.
The lawsuit a few years back, I think only included Grosse Pointe Shores,m because their park is actually in St. Clair Shores.
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March 8th, 2010, 09:32 PM
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Buddy of mine has a house a few doors down from the Manoogian. He was askin 1.2 but that was five yrs ago.
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March 9th, 2010, 09:40 PM
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wintersmommy, I was a guest at a party during the holidays at 1500 Seminole. The hosts (who shall remain nameless) were incredibly gracious, and every inch of the home looked lovely and impeccably maintained. The pictures don't even do it justice.
So when are you putting your offer in? *smile*
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ohh i need a few more promotions at work before I am in the same league as that house ....i wonder if that house will wait for me? Surely if its stood this long it can hang on for another 15 or so years LOL
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March 9th, 2010, 11:39 PM
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I would need 17 more promotions at work to buy that house. In the meantime, I volunteer on several of the historic house tours in Detroit, and get my fix that way. You can buy tickets, and support these wonderful neighborhoods and help their fundraising efforts.
What about the house in Palmer Woods once owned by the archdiocese (sold to John Salley)? I wonder what that house is valued at.
And speaking of Palmer Woods, I know the owners of the Frank Lloyd Wright home have spent well over $1M in purchase and renovation costs. But not for sale again anytime soon...
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March 10th, 2010, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by REL
I would need 17 more promotions at work to buy that house. In the meantime, I volunteer on several of the historic house tours in Detroit, and get my fix that way. You can buy tickets, and support these wonderful neighborhoods and help their fundraising efforts.
What about the house in Palmer Woods once owned by the archdiocese (sold to John Salley)? I wonder what that house is valued at.
And speaking of Palmer Woods, I know the owners of the Frank Lloyd Wright home have spent well over $1M in purchase and renovation costs. But not for sale again anytime soon...
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There's a special place in heaven for those guys. That's one of my favorite homes in the city.
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March 10th, 2010, 08:17 AM
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There's a special place in heaven for those guys. That's one of my favorite homes in the city.
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Even without the purchase of the Turkel House, there is definately a place in heaven for them. They are very civic-minded and generous to causes they support. Active members of the community, and I am grateful they chose to rescue that particular house.
I heard when Frank Lloyd Wright was asked about Detroit, and he answered something along the lines of, "I think they should tear the place down and start over."
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March 10th, 2010, 08:26 AM
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There's a special place in heaven for those guys. That's one of my favorite homes in the city.
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but dont ever let them get married as that would be an affront to the lord our god.
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March 10th, 2010, 08:33 AM
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A million dollar house in Detroit. The supercondo at the Book Cadillac Hotel is the ONLY one that the owner brought. The rest of the homes is from a price a bag of doritos corn chips to a price of a VCR.
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March 10th, 2010, 08:43 AM
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And speaking of Palmer Woods, I know the owners of the Frank Lloyd Wright home have spent well over $1M in purchase and renovation costs. But not for sale again anytime soon...
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Frank Lloyd Wright produced some stunning architecture, but his houses and buildings don't hold up too well in the durability and maintenance end of things. He designed most of the Florida Southern University campus and they have had to do major renovations as the place was falling apart.
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March 10th, 2010, 09:34 AM
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Frank Lloyd Wright produced some stunning architecture, but his houses and buildings don't hold up too well in the durability and maintenance end of things. He designed most of the Florida Southern University campus and they have had to do major renovations as the place was falling apart.
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You are so Wright 
Not to mention, geographic location wasn't always taken into account. The Turkel House has a flat roof, not appropriate for Michigan winters.
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March 10th, 2010, 11:33 AM
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I heard when Frank Lloyd Wright was asked about Detroit, and he answered something along the lines of, "I think they should tear the place down and start over."
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The city or the house? 
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March 10th, 2010, 11:58 AM
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The city. He made that statement to the city council during a presentation about his view of urban planning and how to best make Detroit livable. His Broadacre City model was basically designed to empty out the cities and create a massive decentralized suburbia. I would say that 50-60 years of unintentionally following his proposal here in SeM has definitively proved his idea as a failure.
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What about the house in Palmer Woods once owned by the archdiocese (sold to John Salley)? I wonder what that house is valued at.
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Didn't John Salley live in the Fisher Mansion? Was it ever restored after that car dealer burned it down?
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March 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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The city. He made that statement to the city council during a presentation about his view of urban planning and how to best make Detroit livable. His Broadacre City model was basically designed to empty out the cities and create a massive decentralized suburbia. I would say that 50-60 years of unintentionally following his proposal here in SeM has definitively proved his idea as a failure.
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They have an exhibit in the Guggenheim of his visions for Pittsburgh... I think it was for the Pittsburgh Point Civic Center. It reminded me a lot of the barren feeling in some of Detroit's more unsuccessful urban renewal projects.
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