Professor Rush "We gotta redefine smart"

[vetalalumni]

An excerpt from Rush on April 9, 2009. See transcript at http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...109.guest.html

Rush wanted to show his listening audience how badly he

... misread the public mood or misunderstood the power of cult followers.

At the end, Rush says

I'm not gonna bother analyzing the voters. They're cult followers; they don't care what he says; it's how he says it, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And

We gotta redefine smart.

[turkeycall]

. . . and we're not going to bother analysing the dittoheads or any other kind of political wingnut. Talk about cult followers!

I am reminded of the old newsreels which show the German army goosestepping in lockstep, all under the outstretched arm and evil eye of Uncle Adolph. How entertaining, yet dangerous it is to have a cult figure like Rush. He is a court jester without a king, a little corporal who would lead thousands upon thousands into the spiral of delusion.


Rush is the antithesis of "smart," at the other end of the spectrum where Olberman and Maddow try to outdo each other in being snarky. They all have their knobs set on "Perma-spin."

Just give me the events of the day straight up. The news speaks for itself. Give it to me but don't tell me how to analyse it. If it's important enough, I'll do it myself. I can always write a letter to the editor.

[Big Dog]

I agree, Limbloat is dangerous and could be very dangerous.

[ccbatson]

"We aren't going to bother analysing Dittoheads......ummm, wait a minute, what is this thread, at its' essence, doing?

I love it, this anti Rush agenda is making him more popular and listened to than ever...another backfire for Obama.

[turkeycall]

[quote=ccbatson;5962 I love it, this anti Rush agenda is making him more popular and listened to than ever...another backfire for Obama.[/quote]


Well, another dittohead has been heard from.


Anything said by a conservative wignut, no matter how far out it might be - even half-truths told to cast any politician who might be anywhere left of his lunatic fringe in a bad light - is all right by bats. The truth doesn't matter. How Hitleresque!


Pilate to Christ: What is truth? In other words, who cares about the truth? It is whatever I say it is.


Rush's lies, told often enough, become the truth to dittoheads. He who shouts the loudest or posts the most messages with accusations of socialism and collectivism must be right.


Rush cannot survive without people like bats, and bats cannot survive without gasbags like Rush. It's a symbiotic relationship. They feed off each other.

[HPGrmln]

Sorry, gotta agree with ccbatson..
The more you guys write about him and discuss him, the more you legitimize him. Youve paid attention to what he's said and are repeating it, giving him credit for the quotes.
Youve helped him more than hurt him. He's successfully struck a nerve with the anti-"dittoheads".
Youve given him the publicity he wants for free.

[vetalalumni]

The more you guys write about him and discuss him, the more you legitimize him.

In fact, Rush is a great asset because he inadvertantly strengthens opposing arguments. Illegitimacy is not redefined legitimate magically, or by mere personality alone. Authentic is both humble and strong.

Youve paid attention to what he's said and are repeating it, giving him credit for the quotes.

It is wise to analyze powerful influences, whether agreed with or not. To ignore would be detrimentally arrogant.

Youve helped him more than hurt him.

Contrary, he ultimately hurts his followers to their detriment. He appears to not care about that. As far as helping Rush [[financially?), I'll take that anyday [[in the scheme of things). This is America after all.

He's successfully struck a nerve with the anti-"dittoheads".

Nope. Not wearing emotions or sentiments on my sleeve at all. About the best Rush has done is reveal that many who disagree with him wisely want him to continue. Other than that, admittedly he has caused some to reveal their strategically held hand. Furthermore, and fundamentally, striking a nerve is typically a dishonorable tactic anyway

Youve given him the publicity he wants for free.

The free publicity supports opposing arguments and ultimately hurts his followers.

Hey Rush - Rock on !!! Run for office even [[heck, you've done so informally already).

[ghettopalmetto]

Sorry, gotta agree with ccbatson..
The more you guys write about him and discuss him, the more you legitimize him. Youve paid attention to what he's said and are repeating it, giving him credit for the quotes.
Youve helped him more than hurt him. He's successfully struck a nerve with the anti-"dittoheads".
Youve given him the publicity he wants for free.

How does publicity equal legitimization? That's like saying Britney Spears becomes a better musician the more her songs are played on the radio.

I know you right-wingers are big on squelching dissent, what with your staunch support of the Bill of Rights and all. I think it's necessary for people to debunk the Limbaughs, Coulters, O'Reillys, and Becks so that we might actually have a citizenry that THINKS for itself, instead of regurgitating the emotional ramblings of its self-appointed masters.

[maxx]

Sorry, gotta agree with ccbatson..
The more you guys write about him and discuss him, the more you legitimize him. Youve paid attention to what he's said and are repeating it, giving him credit for the quotes.
Youve helped him more than hurt him. He's successfully struck a nerve with the anti-"dittoheads".
Youve given him the publicity he wants for free.

Rush Limbugh doesn't need our few remarks about him to give him " legitimacy" or publicity.

[rb336]

"We aren't going to bother analysing Dittoheads......ummm, wait a minute, what is this thread, at its' essence, doing?

I love it, this anti Rush agenda is making him more popular and listened to than ever...another backfire for Obama.

Hardly. It only increases his cache amongst the mindless who already follow him

[vetalalumni]

While surfing when not logged on, I heard [[read) a little birdy has asked what exactly are shameful flaws associated with American exceptionalism [[as defined by Rush). "America" is all its people, including Rush. And Rush is the "shameful flaw[[s)". The American exceptionalism that Rush epitomizes is his definition of it. His definition, clarified by his rhetoric etc..., is the American exceptionalism he speaks of.

List Rush's flaws and there you will have examples of American exceptionalism, as defined by Rush.

We [[I) gladly accept Rush's freedom to speak and be heard.

[vetalalumni]

... where Olberman and Maddow try to outdo each other in being snarky. They all have their knobs set on "Perma-spin."

Agreed.

Also, Rush's definition of American exceptionalism includes both America's many admirable virtues and shameful flaws rolled together into one. And prominent Republicans and conservatives don't often renounce his assertions when appropriate.

[ccbatson]

Which flaws are those?

[mauser]

Rush Limbaugh at this point is like a WWII Japanese soldier on a south Pacific island who doesnt realize that the war had been lost years ago.

[rb336]

hmmmm... Dems openly disagree with Obama on numerous issues. No republican dares disagree with Rush. I can count on one hand the number of repubs who dared stand up to the bushies even when they knew they were wrong.

i'd say, yet again, truth has a liberal bias

[Flanders]

And the creepiest one of them all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP60fa97D5I

Creepy in the manner of how it has the potential to inspire violent acts by the more gun crazy of the whackjob RW upon innocent US citizens who voted for Obama, or may be suspected to have voted for BHO, as some of the comments below that video indicated. Images and words of RW hate and bigotry, as uploaded on YouTube during and after the elections won't help them win any more fanatic extremist voters to their side, since they already have cornered the market.

[Lorax]

Christ almighty you are delusional are you not? Take a good look at your Obamazoids and their comparison to der Leader.

How do people not see themselves for what they truly are. Are you this blind?

I mean really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQK9QpmRjY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eABrWdwUCBg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBbCn2K7bE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVDBtHeKIEM

I could go on and on posting uncanny similiarities between der Fuher Obmam and other monsters in this world past and present but it is futile.

You zombies are through. Your brains are mush .

What a load of fascist gas bag tripe.

Where were you when the Bush Crime Family was stripping us of our rights? Illegally wiretapping us, recording our phone calls and computer keystrokes? Killing our boys for an illegal oil war in Iraq?

You people screwed this country into the ground, and raped the treasury on the way out the door.

Just another pack of braindead automatons goosestepping to the dittohead drumbeat. Oh, and washing it down with fascist flavored KoolAid.

[jams]

syllogism [sil‐ŏ‐jizm], a form of logical argument that derives a conclusion from two propositions [[‘premises’) sharing a common term, usually in this form: all x and y [[major premise); z is x [[minor premise); therefore z is y [[conclusion). For example: all poets are alcoholics; Jane isapoet; therefore Jane is an alcoholic. In this deductive logic, the conclusion is of course reliable only if both premises are true. Syllogistic reasoning was cultivated in medieval scholasticism, and is sometimes found in Chaucer and Shakespeare.

http://www.answers.com/topic/syllogism

[ghettopalmetto]

Dear Gov. Palin:

Economics 101 is microeconomics. The recession and ensuing stimulus are concerns of macroeconomics.

Please tell us exactly what the federal government has told you that you can/can't do.

[gibran]

"the structure of American society is being demolished brick by brick [[deregulation). Within a few short years, Americans will have reached the "liberty" seized by Jean-Jaques Rousseau, the abolition of every particular dependency[[ of government intervention). This is what Hannah Arendt called "the atomic mass," a precondition for the establishment of totalitarianism. p 178 Buchanan.

This what scares most people about the right's call that liberals are the evil of the world and out to ruin our country...and that there is but one way...

I personally advocate that those on the far left and those in the rock fields of the right are tearing the country apart..

Whereas moderates are now called liberal by right-wing folks and radical conservatives as if they really want the American dream to fade and be replaced with a "socialist state" This conservative action of holding on to ideals and and the magical thinking that the Fonz and happy days were the apex of our culture is hurting our evolution..

What needs to happen is a little Jeffersonian Revolt that brings on the next phase of our Democratic Revolution...we need to evolve..

a) less control by powerful lobbies and foreign attachments
b) stronger protectionism for American manufacturing'
c) education and health care that is non discriminatory and available to all equally...
d) that we practice social justice equally and those who can't contribute at equal rates have a level of accommodation and respect that balances out in the moral standards of a just society.
e) adherence to laws that protect those who seek justice and realize there reason or agreement to have them in the first place;
f) that our international agenda is not building a pax America but supporting change through our cultural and fair stances backed up by strong resolve when someone directly threatens our country;
g) that we place value on all people, regardless of their cultural background..that we value all people equally and we focus our diplomacy at home and abroad on the concept of humanity not "my way" or no way;

H) That if a baby dies in Africa because of poor water quality that we all cry and that our efforts to help those in need be focused on things that improve quality of life for others as well as taking care of the quality of life of our children too.

I) Where does supporting dictators and countries that do not follow international laws help our security...when those countries violate international laws and morals have "made in the USA" on their weapons we have then to ask ourselves-who do they see as co-conspirators...an d in reality put us at risk too;
J) "Give us a protective tariff and we will have the greatest country on earth" Abe Lincoln or "I'm Concerned about Protectionism" George Bush...


in short maybe what the extreme right fears is a USA based on the founding father's words and the reality the it's embodiment of the "living constitution"- not what they actually did or didn't do [[slavery, discrimination and genocide). It seems what they fear is a USA that is reflective of those "happy day's" ideals behind the Happier Days if applied to all of our citizens equally ...but they cling to the myth of "Happy Days" without the realization of those images didn't extend itself to all of our citizens at the time equally...

so I agree we can ignore Rush etal. and hope he goes away or is exposed for the hypocrite that he and his likes are or we can start to counter this divison with real discussion that brings out the moderates.

[Lorax]

The Caftan Warlord, Brush Lintball, needs no help from anyone else in the process of crapping in the punchbowl, he's quite capable of doing that all by himself.

His very existence is an embarrassment to all of us, and a waste of flesh.

His ego is so inflated, that he actually allows the left to anoint him the titular head of the Repugnican party, and recently agreed to resign, as long as people stop talking about him.

Problem is, when people stop talking about him, there's no more 40 million dollar contracts, book deals, interviews with Hannity the Manatee, Dickwad Cheney, etc.

In truth, he represents no one intelligent, and is irrelevant.

[ccbatson]

Rush is comenting on the reality of what is happening as he sees it. He happens to be correct and resonates with a growing number of people...thanks to Obama proving him right every day.

[Lorax]

Sorry, Batts, but reality is not an opinion.

Slimebaugh is only trying to justify his 40 million dollar contract, and would have been just as harsh on McCain, since his paycheck depends on it.

As foreign as this may sound to you, Repugnicans are not entitled to their own set of facts or "reality" as you put it.

Facts are carved in stone, everything else is an opinion.

[ccbatson]

Bush and McCain disagreed with Rush on a few subjects [[they were both wrong). Could it be that Rush is compellingly correct in the vast majority of things that he says?

[rb336]

Bush and McCain disagreed with Rush on a few subjects [[they were both wrong). Could it be that Rush is compellingly correct in the vast majority of things that he says?

hmmm...even when he has been proven wrong, shown to have knowingly lied, etc. you are a laugh, bats