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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
    I don't know about that. I need to see stats to back that up and the census tract data is dated.
    Palmer Woods People Data

    Median Household Income:
    Palmer Woods - $110,745
    Detroit - $29,526
    National - $44,512
    [[Michigan - $44,627)

    University District People Data

    Median Household Income:
    University District - $80,461
    Detroit - $29,526
    National - $44,512
    [[Michigan - $44,627)

    Green Acres People Data

    Median Household Income:
    Green Acres - $60,798
    Detroit - $29,526
    National - $44,512
    [[Michigan - $44,627)


    http://www.zillow.com/local-info/MI-...ople/r_270047/

    [[I pulled the Median income for Michigan from Wikipedia.)

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    Income doesn't equal property values. That would be the guide for how much local government they could afford.

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    Danny, endless copying doesn't equal comprehension on your part.

    "THE HOME RULE CITY ACT [[EXCERPT)
    Act 279 of 1909


    117.9 Incorporation, consolidation, or change of boundaries; governing law; affected district; petition or resolution for annexation; voting; duties of commission.
    Sec. 9.

    [[1) In the event of a conflict between the provisions of this act and 1968 PA 191, MCL 123.1001 to 123.1020, regarding an incorporation or consolidation, the provisions of 1968 PA 191, MCL 123.1001 to 123.1020, shall govern."

    Translation - Any conflict involving the laws covering incorporation or consolidation is governed by MCL 123.1001 - 1020, which governs the actions of the State Boundary Commission. Both laws allow for the consolidation of multiple cities, villages and townships into a new city.

    Except from section 9.

    "Except as otherwise provided, this section shall not be construed to give any city the authority to attach territory from any other city unless the question relative to the territory has been voted upon by the voters of the entire cities affected "

    Translation - State law allows one city to annex another if approved by voters in both cities.

    "STATE BOUNDARY COMMISSION [[EXCERPT)
    Act 191 of 1968

    123.1001 Definitions.

    [[e) “Municipal boundary adjustment” means incorporation of a new city or village, consolidation of 2 or more cities, villages or townships as a new city, and the annexation of territory to a city where the commission has jurisdiction over annexation proceedings."

    Translation - The State Boundary Commission has the authority to approve the consolidation of multiple cities, villages and townships into a new city.

    Anything else that you need explained?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    Danny, endless copying doesn't equal comprehension on your part.

    "THE HOME RULE CITY ACT [[EXCERPT)
    Act 279 of 1909


    117.9 Incorporation, consolidation, or change of boundaries; governing law; affected district; petition or resolution for annexation; voting; duties of commission.
    Sec. 9.

    [[1) In the event of a conflict between the provisions of this act and 1968 PA 191, MCL 123.1001 to 123.1020, regarding an incorporation or consolidation, the provisions of 1968 PA 191, MCL 123.1001 to 123.1020, shall govern."

    Translation - Any conflict involving the laws covering incorporation or consolidation is governed by MCL 123.1001 - 1020, which governs the actions of the State Boundary Commission. Both laws allow for the consolidation of multiple cities, villages and townships into a new city.

    Except from section 9.

    "Except as otherwise provided, this section shall not be construed to give any city the authority to attach territory from any other city unless the question relative to the territory has been voted upon by the voters of the entire cities affected "

    Translation - State law allows one city to annex another if approved by voters in both cities.

    "STATE BOUNDARY COMMISSION [[EXCERPT)
    Act 191 of 1968

    123.1001 Definitions.

    [[e) “Municipal boundary adjustment” means incorporation of a new city or village, consolidation of 2 or more cities, villages or townships as a new city, and the annexation of territory to a city where the commission has jurisdiction over annexation proceedings."

    Translation - The State Boundary Commission has the authority to approve the consolidation of multiple cities, villages and townships into a new city.

    Anything else that you need explained?
    YES, A city can annex a city by means of voter approval for better police, fire and city services. [[ from section 9) And YES, the SBC can have the right to alagamate city, by city, township by township and village by village, However, since most cities, villages and townships in the Metro Detroit Area had been chartered and incorporated locked for annexation immunity. An alagamation of Detroit and suburbs WILL NOT happen unless we change the racial, political and tax base for urban regionalizational purposes.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

    Now we're still back to square one

    In Memoriam: Neda Soltani

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novine View Post
    Income doesn't equal property values. That would be the guide for how much local government they could afford.
    I'm not an advocate for more municipal fragmentation in Metro Detroit, but you have to agree that property values in that area would quickly benefit if those neighborhoods seceded from Detroit. Those houses become much more marketable to prospective buyers when potential residents aren't forced to have a Detroit address. Because as it stands now, that area is only marketable to monied buyers who either don't mind having a Detroit address, or monied buyers who don't understand the local stigma attached to having a Detroit address. I'm not saying that it is right, but that is how it is.

    Furthermore, if the area were to become its own town or village, it would have a median household income roughly on par with West Bloomfield, and thus be put on a few of the national "most wealthy community" lists. Real estate agents would have little trouble marketing the area.

    And the residents in these areas already pay for private snow removal, security and other services on top of their tax bills. So it doesn't seem like that much of a stretch for them to fund their own municipal services with the tax money that they would no longer be sending to Detroit.

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