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    Given the California won't even accept it's own scrip for payments owed to the state, I don't think anyone in California who disses Detroit's or Michigan's politics and economics relative to California's has much to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpup View Post
    Given the California won't even accept it's own scrip for payments owed to the state, I don't think anyone in California who disses Detroit's or Michigan's politics and economics relative to California's has much to stand on.
    Well,

    you can play the tit for tat all that you want; reads more like someone is touchy, but you won't get any argument out of me on that Cali. point; if you took your time and read my point right before your knee jerk reaction reply, you'd see that I'm just stating the facts which don't equate to dissing.

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    If you were stating facts you'd state the fact that despite your opinion of Big 3 cars, GM has never been outsold in the US market by any Asian manufacturer and Ford has also outsold the Asian companies a few months this year.

    You'd also state that, if not for the mess that is the investment banks, GM and Chrysler wouldn't have needed to use the government as financier or have been forced through bankruptcy.

    But, nooooo, it's all because Detroit has sucked for thirty years, despite being the mainstay industry of middle class America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilpup View Post
    If you were stating facts you'd state the fact that despite your opinion of Big 3 cars, GM has never been outsold in the US market by any Asian manufacturer and Ford has also outsold the Asian companies a few months this year.

    You'd also state that, if not for the mess that is the investment banks, GM and Chrysler wouldn't have needed to use the government as financier or have been forced through bankruptcy.

    But, nooooo, it's all because Detroit has sucked for thirty years, despite being the mainstay industry of middle class America.
    Oh? And their car sells declined while Japanese cars increased.

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    Toyota has benefitted greatly from the Japan government over the years - their government policy looks out for Japanese based companies. Yet Toyota has still lost money and has lost market share [[particularly to Ford). Toyota has delayed work its much-vaunted new assembly facilities in Mississippi and even Honda has shuttered its US motorcycle assembly facility. So much for the infallibles.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2009081...ota-seek-No.-1

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