J Stone

I visited your site and found it
excellent as well as depressing. I live in Dallas Texas. I was
born and raised in the midwest. I love cities like Chicago and
Detroit. It is very depressing to see Detroit in ruins. These
are the cities that built the United States and where the industrial
revolution flourished; Cities of Industry...
I would love the opportunity to
move to a city such as Detroit. Unfortunately, the technology
that I am involved with is not located in the Midwest. As we
migrate to the suburbs, climb the corporate ladder, we soon
forget about the core that built the areas surrounding it. As
the tax base moves to the suburbs, what is a city to do? The
more that we import as well as manufacture in other countries
(NAFTA - Mexico), it is easy to see why a city like Detroit
has crumbled. It is easy to overlook decaying neighborhoods
that we do not feel safe in. We end up with areas were the occupants
of these neighborhoods seem resentful and angry at intruders,
despair is in the air, crime is rampant, as well as drugs and
all other evils.
I am glad that you show information
about renovations and restorations. A very well presented and
honest look at Detroit.
You have put together a site that
is worthy and honorable.
Sincerely, Mike Artwick

I am passionate preservationist. I am also
the daughter of parents native to Detroit. And I am heartbroken
by these images.
Many of the buildings commemorated by your
site are those I heard my parents mention throughout my childhood;
they met at U of D & dated at many now lost downtown haunts.
One of them attended St. Stanislaus school and my mom and grandmother
both worked for Hudson's, my mom then moving on to GM. One of
my grandfathers worked for Ford, the other for Chrysler.
While I seldom visited (I grew up in San
Diego, where my parents moved after marrying), downtown Detroit
was my vicarious hometown through my parents stories. Here I
am, with the urge to restore and preserve flowing through the
blood in my veins, and the only major US city to which I am
linked has rotted away fully. The blight your photos convey
is beyond comprehension.
My husband forwarded your page to me and
to my mother. When I called her today, she was weeping. And
I was weeping for her, and so much lost grandeur, grace, and
vision.
Thank you for the service you've provided
by compiling this site so lovingly. In my visions of Detroit,
I'll imagine a group of us who love the city and it's architecture
having coffee on one of those apartment balconies on Mackinaw
Avenue.
CEB
Celeste E. Bulley

it is painful and i cannot look at it all.
its like violence or dead bodies it is extra weird seeing it
on a screen like this. i think of working out at the downtown
y or having lunch at john r and elizabeth not so long ago. i
don't have the energy now to respond to such a large undertaking
as this site. in some ways it is troubling though it strikes
me like the demolished by neglect exhibit did years ago--an
attempt to bring attention and hopefully action to save our
buildings, our city and ourselves.
its easier now that i've been living in
dc not to feel as much as i used to though i'm still in detroit
regularly, will be there tomorrow in fact and still like to
be in the city in spite of all that's happened or not.
maybe i'll look at the site again and send
you some more specific comments. since i was referred to it
by a friend from here who doesn't know detroit, i was skeptical
that it might be the evil work of some foolish out of towner.
there seems to be more thought in it than that. i wonder if
you could achieve your goals for the site with another name
for it and including additional text and photos to give more
of a sense of the city than just this. not sure if i think that's
best here but its a reaction. did you see the metro times review
earlier this year of jerome's piece at the ford auditorium garage?
that's the kind of writing this site needs and the world needs
to read to try and understand the great city still, enigma?
maybe. muse, certainly.
viva detroit.
david schon in exile washington, dc

I learned about your website in the Society
for Industrial Archeology newsletter. My expectations were more
than exceeded, and I was overwhelmed. The nearest word I can
use to describe it is "poetic" as the experience was
powerful and moving. I have lived in two cities (Buffalo and
Chicago), and traveled to others, and my visit to your website
rekindled many of the emotions I feel about the fate of the
American metropolis. It is difficult to love something as much
as a city and it's architecture, because it is the love that
brings both pleasure and anguish. If one cares enough to try
to make a difference they must also deal with the anger of watching
things disappear because of stupidity, greed and indolence.
We have become a society whose greatest achievement is the trash
pile.
Unstated in your work is the fact that racial
flight has been the overriding impetus in the destruction of
the American city. This powerful set of emotions, coupled with
the American predilection for movement and the freedom of open
spaces, has drained many of this country's great urban centers
of the vitality they need to survive. We flee in fear of the
unknown, abandoning the communities that nurtured us, then turn
in anger on those who "forced" us out. By depriving
the new residents of the economic, social and political power
to maintain those neighborhoods, we complete the cycle of fear
and hatred by smugly denigrating the powerless as not having
the values necessary to maintain what we have abandoned. Just
like cancer, fear and ignorance will begin in a small place
and grow to overwhelm the whole body.
The ancient ruins that inspire you were
the remnants of cultures who had played out their moment in
history. The most depressing aspect of the events you document
is that our culture creates its ruins in rapidly increasing
fashion. We are not talking in terms of centuries, but in terms
of decades. We have become a society that is forced to live
amongst the ruins of its dreams, aspirations, greed and waste.
The incinerator amongst the decaying neighborhoods is an apt
metaphor for what we have allowed ourselves to become.
Thank you for your hard work and heartfelt
emotion.
David Daruszka Chicago, IL

This is simply the most thoughtful, beautiful
use of the Internet and World Wide Web I have ever encountered.
I am at times fiercely proud to be born and raised in Detroit,
and at other times, sad and maybe even embarrassed. I've seen
many of the sites you captured in photos and paintings, but
until I visited your site, I only saw the outer shell of decay
and disuse. In your photos, I swear I can almost see these places
as they were -- beautiful in their function and form, and in
some cases just beautiful to please the eye. I can almost see
the ghosts in their daily bustle. And, I feel a pang of sadness
when I think of what those ghosts would see now. At the same
time, I feel a bit of hope at the possibility for renewal. Thank
you for sharing your vision.
Dave Woomer Detroit, Michigan.

Thanks for the web site. Awesome. I'm reassured
to learn there are many others like me who still feel sad about
the loss of interesting buildings and ways of life in our old
cities.
I'm a southern rust belter (New Jerseyan)
whose father worked in NJ Ford plants for 38 years. I've seen
plenty of decaying or blown out beautiful old houses in my part
of the world. But I hear that-- and your site suggests-- Detroit
may just be the paragon of decay.
The worst part of this decay is to see these
skeletons juxtaposed to vacant lands because it only makes one
imagine how many MORE such places that can never be rebuilt,
or even IMAGINED, used to exist. Your site allows at least an
attenuated opportunity to imagine.
My overarching feeling is, as others have
written, what a terrible waste of beauty and utility and community
has occurred. How long after the riots did it take for the houses
to be flattened? Did they hang in, dilapidated and vacant, for
a while and disappear gradually? Or was it a swift, sudden decline?
Are there any good books about this?
As absolutely monolithic suburbanization
makes its final assault on America (next, the world) I find
myself drawn to Detroit. Is it still worth coming? Are there
any guided tours? Is it really true that you need a car to navigate
the city? I was naively hoping to take some buses around town
when I visit this summer.
Hey, maybe we shouldn't be so sad about
boring, sterile modern structures replacing interesting old
ones. With embryo selection already here and cloning and genetic
engineering looming, our human appearance may soon resemble
our architecture. The same "Great Minds" that flattened
our cities and put up glass and steel boxes are leading us to
terminal boredom.

I was born in Detroit and grew up in the
suburbs. I left the area in the 70s after graduating from the
University of Michigan. I was tired of Detroit's decay, it's
lack of opportunity, and it's racism. Just this morning a high
school pal sent me this URL with a note attached - WOW - was
all he said, or had to say. I have to tell you that your site
left me in tears.
Tears remembering Detroit the way it used
to be, and tears for seeing it deteriorate even further. I applaud
you for documenting this decline and for digging into the history
of so many of these wonderful buildings. Detroit does have a
rich and magnificent past that is being lost. I remember my
father driving around town and getting misty when he saw streets
he grew up on as a boy covered in trash, and houses destroyed
through years of neglect. After the riots in the late 60s we
stopped going downtown - it was too painful and became 'unsafe'.
My mother (from Kingsville Ontario) was always afraid when we
had to drive downtown to use the tunnel or the bridge.
I left and moved West - trying to find a
better way. I have not found anything better, merely different.
I thought that Californians had cornered the market on blowing
up history. Nothing here is over 50 years old, or if it is,
it is dilapidated and waiting for implosion. Perhaps this is
the way of the future. In San Jose there have been fights over
theaters long since closed, and over historic buildings torn
down to make room for steel and glass monoliths to house the
new giants of industry. We have similar concerns here - the
loss of historic industries, the devaluation of the past.
Silicon Valley was once a huge orchard -
filled with plums, cherries, apples, and peaches. The street
names tell all - Blossom Valley, Prunedale, Cherry. All of the
canning factories resided here. The Del Monte factory is the
only one left. The others have closed. The orchards are gone
and have been turned into strip malls and semiconductor houses.
And some of the semiconductor houses have been torn down to
make way for the internet or software barons. The people here
mourn too.
But our mourning is not as sad as that in
Detroit. The good old days are gone, the schools are lost, the
canneries are closed, the new buildings are ugly and without
aesthetics. The difference is we have lots of sun, lots of money
on the horizon, and unlimited prospects. Unfortunately, Detroit
appears to be in much worse shape. A friend of mine moved to
Troy, Michigan two months ago. He was born and raised in Southern
California. He feels the auto industry is making a huge comeback.
I wished him luck. Let's hope he's right.
Thanks for bringing Detroit back to me,
if just for a short while. Always good to be reminded where
you came from, and to take that with you wherever you are going
to. I'll try to muster up some cash to help you to continue
your project(s). Much success to you.
Robin Brack Ex-Detroiter Currently residing
in San Jose, California

I have visted your website many times,and
as someone who worked in southwestern Detroit I found your website
breathtaking. Detroit looks like a town that people could not
wait to get up and leave. Nevertheless with all the "demolition
by neglect" Their really is a spirit to these buildings
and houses they are like friends from another era, they remind
us of the dreams and hopes of people from another time. Living
presently in Arizona where there is a constant need to build
more and more stripmalls I fill a lack of soul in these communities.
Why do we need to have new things all the time? in 30 years
will these communities be revered like the old buildings of
my hometown? why does every city need to have a planet hollywood
and a niketown? is urban renawal only possible by bringing in
these corporate giants that make everytown look like anytown
USA? These are questions that I hope people might ask themselves
when they view the food for thought that are your pictures.
thank you

It's easy to spot someone from the Detroit
area. There's just something about that person that screams:
"This is MY city." Even those of us who no longer
live in Detroit are still Detroiters in out hearts. It's just
something that never goes away.
Your website was like a treasure find
for me and my family. So much of what you have shown produces
memories rushing back into our hearts and minds. Your shots
of the Packard Plant are absolutely astounding. I can't wait
to share this site in all it's glory with the rest of my family.
I'll also be sure to try and find the help you need to keep
this site alive!!!!
Best regards, K. Dromowicz

Thank you for your magnificent work!
This almost made me cry as I was raised
in Windsor in the fifties and took music lessons in the DIA
area,hung out at the fabulous library as an adolescent and got
Vernor's and a hot dog at the plant down the street.
Many a time I would sneak out of our house
in Riverside, cycle through the tunnel and watch news and travel
films at the Globe on Woodward.
I do find a special beauty in the not yet
and ruined state of civilization as in the skeletal exposed.
Real Surreal!
Richard Armin

A marvelous site, one of the few I've come
across that wields the power of the Web with grace and purpose.
Pete Larson

Hey buddy, there [sic] buildings!! Get a
grip, and then get a life. I think the City of Detroit should
be a lot more concerned about more important things other than
your precious buildings!! Anonymous
Typical Yankee artist crap!! There are a
lot of things in the world that should not be saved. It seems
to me your just playing on peoples emotions hoping to make a
few bucks!! What ever floats your boat, but I'm not buying it!!

I loved your very moving tour of an American
Dream turned nightmare. This is the kind of thing I've always
hoped the net would bring: personal visions with worldwide reach.
I look forward to your next oeuvre.
Jeff Hurn Menlo Park Calif

I found your Web-site through Yahoo's picks
of the week. Expecting a humorous cynical collection of broken
windows, winos and Devil's Night fires, I found instead an evocative
collage from an individual who obviously cares about Detroit
and its vanishing treasures.
When I bought my first car in the early
80's my then-girlfriend and I enjoyed taking road trips from
Ann Arbor: "Does Michigan Avenue really go all the way
through? Where does 8-mile end?". We enjoyed the scenes
of industrial decay we drove past, reminiscent of dinosaur-bones,
decay, and a vicarious thrill of danger; a glimpse of anarchy
thorugh neglect.
Seeing your images of some of the great
treasures being lost (and, admittedly, some restored) rekindled
those memories, but this time with a poignant sympathy for the
concern of a Detroit resident who deeply loved the city that
I saw back then from the roadside ... a resident whose love
and knowlege of art & architecture is apparent and refreshing.
Thank you so much for a very pleasant surprise.
David Lehman

As a fan of (virtually) all things urban,
a lover of architectural history, and lastly a Yankee fan, I
find your sight a wonderful combination of uplifting devotion
to one's home town, the sadness that fills my heart as a result
of urban flight and the resulting decay, and the rage that arises
from obscenely wealthy individuals ignoring heritage and the
opinions of fans regarding their places of worship.
Your eloquent and impassioned prose made
me feel a sense of loss for places never visited, and nostalgia
for places visited and now lost.
I hope your site makes a difference.
Sincerely, Aubrey Dirkes

I don't know whether to thank you or curse
you...... The tour through the ruins of Detroit brought a tear
to my eye, as I recalled the good times that I had and the beautiful
things that could be seen in Detroit as I grew up. I left 24
years ago, and do come to visit every few years (Detroit will
always be my home).
Phil

Your site blew me away!
Though we all see gradual changes on a wide
scale everyday, and sometimes radical changes on a small scale,
we very rarely, if ever, see radical changes over a whole slice
of territory at once. I know, I am a professional archaeologist.
This is the first time I have seen an archaeological site in
the making on such a large scale. It's liking visiting an abandoned
Roman city, say Volubilis in Morocco, where all the transformations
are taking place at once. It is really transfixing to come across
your site.
And it is so beautiful, with such an eye
to architectural importance as it is perceived in the landscape,
not as it is taught by an art historian!
But my God is it sad. A snapshot of the
essential vacuity of contemporary North American commercial
culture. How can such a powerful nation throw all of this away
with such little regard. Quite by coincidence, I heard an interview
on the radio a couple of weeks ago on the demolition of the
Hudson Block, so I was doubly fascinated to see that someone
had taken the time, the effort and the eye to chronicle the
apparently wholesale destruction of the city center. I can't
help but feel that the USA, and all the rest of us, are in for
trouble for as long as we haven't found a way to control such
callous waste of our cities.
I'll be back to see your site.
William Moss Québec City Canada

I want to thank you for the contribution
you made/make to the writing of the history of Detroit. Your
website really represents why the Internet has dramatically
changed most everyone it has ever touched. Your thoughtful commentary,
the warmth and respect you show for your subject are all marvelous.
This site is so great - it sends chills
down my back. Thank you very much May you get as much joy from
growing the site as you have given so many others by creating
it!. A.H. Krum

Your web site is wonderful. I have seldom,
if ever, spent the time to page through as long and detailed
a site--but the artistry with which you've assembled the haunting
images continued to beckon me through the entire downtown Detroit
series, detours and all. Are you planning to publish a conventional
book using these materials? As a one-time editor, I could cavil
about some textual matters (e.g., "barbed wire" instead
of "barb wire"), and there are a few typos here and
there; but they are minor, mechanical considerations. It's clear
the site is a labor of love and a work of art in and of itself.
Moreover, it appears to me to be undergirded by a strong moral
concern about the way in which we do the business of creating
and maintaing cities. Lansing differs from Detroit only in scale:
open space and classic structures continue to disappear under
the concrete of speculative building and the encouragement of
short-term tax advantage. One hopes that sites like yours can
help awaken and nurture longer, wider visions. Thanks, Mike

Lowell, I have been viewing your site for
some time now. It seems that I am quite drawn to it, and its
wonderful images. My interest lies in the area of community
planning and the detrimental effects of urban sprawl. I am from
the Detroit area, and would like nothing better than to see
the city be vibrant and full once again. It is to this end that
I write. Your art (as I perceive it) has a message. Your message
is not lost to a growing number of people, who are working hard
to see that these wonderful old buildings are not lost to the
faceless glass structures of the late 20th century, as other
communities have seen. Perhaps it is in the spirit of the ever-evolving
website you have created to allow some space for people, developers,
and potential investors to seek out information on how to help,
or how to contact the sellers of some of these buildings. Perhaps
you would feel that it is not in the spirit of the art to somewhat
"commercialize" a small portion of the site. But I
believe you know as well as I do what will save these buildings--people
who care what happens to them and money. Some will always say
"tear them all down, they're junk", but if you can
make people see that this could be a truly wonderful city, with
some of the best architecture and character in the country,
if not in the world: this would truly be art.
Jason C. Pasko Monroe, Michigan

HUDSON'S
The implosion was today
My Husband and I said goodbye to Hudson's
As we drove across the Ambassador Bridge
On our way to Frankenmuth
As we drove up I-75
We reminisced about Hudson's
At the moment of implosion
We were on the covered bridge in Frankenmuth
When we arrived back in Detroit about 8p.m.
We could still see the dust
But our memories will always be clear.

Born and raised in Tokyo.
I'm a writer of urban culture.
Shocked to see your site.
But I think my city is also in the same course.
City as ruins are still beautiful.
I love your photos and painting.
Thank you so much.
Koichi.

I found the tour very interesting. I would
not have thought of these structures in the same way as the
remnants of ancient Rome or Athens but now see a closer parallel.
I believe that we are currently building a whole new generation
of buildings in this country at the present time in every state
of the union that will be, in future times, regarded as ruins
in the same way that you have described the building on this
tour. These are the "Pole Buildings" of modern companies.
They consist of a concrete slab with aluminum siding on top
of that. Vast buildings can be erected in a day and at a cost
that any company can afford. Trouble is, that they look like
hell and in twenty years these buildings will be falling down.
What will we do when the time runs out on all these structures
in so short a time? We will be stuck with millions of these
useless eyesores because the owners in the here and now wanted
to make a quick profit without regard to the future. In my opinion
this is sad.
Anthony Johnson

I just finished the "Detroit"
tour. As artist and former Detroit I appreciate and applaud
the stark and loving view you have shared. On a day when I have
10 million things to do I found myself riveted to your site.
I have lived in nearly all of the places you have photographed
and painted. I too share your bittersweet portrayal of a city
mired in tunnel vision, and a "sense of immediacy"
that has allowed it to decline without looking back. Your site
has left me with a sense of somber gratitude for your spectacular
vision of a city which may or may not recover, but will always
be home. Thank you so much for sharing. Sincerely, Sue Schmittroth

the guilt and shame should pierce through,
definitely. it was very hard for me not to cry; particularly
through the train station photos. then again, i'm a huge preservationist
at heart, and not hte slightest bit into urban economically-motivated
redevelopment. i kinda wish some of the photos were bigger though.
the dramatic vaulting in the station is so rare to see these
days. there is a train station in san jose or salinas that is
from the 30's, which has a similar vaulting motif. it was just
restored, and is quite breathtaking.
the roman/athenian references i don't take
to be tongue and cheek at all; they're so real. it took thousands
of years for the ruins of greece and rome to fall to where they
are now, and less than a decade for some of these ruins in detroit
to fall to where they're at; that to me is the best "fuck
you" declaration against capitalist-inspired urban sprawl
(uh... and some mismanagement by coleman young.)
the fourum you've set up is really quite
fabulous. i encourage you to push the museum-esque ruins motif
harder.
the "grave-robbers" bits you put
in are good notes too. a reference used most dominantly to describe
vandals robbing egyptian pyramids, appropriated to reference
drunks and hoods ripping off early twentieth century and late
ninteenth century tracery and woodwork. quite brilliant.
:) nina

I have come to this site many times over
the past 6 months or so since I first found it, telling friends
about it, crying and awestruck while going thru every photo,
reading every word. I just wanted to let you know that not only
do I think it's a great site from a web stand point (great colors,
high res/quick loading photos), but you have moved me and taught
me so much about a place I have only just begun to understand.
I moved to Michigan in 1986 to go to UM from Cleveland, another
spoke on the rust belt, and felt at home. Well, at least the
city scape was familar to me. Then, as I went further into Detroit,
I was often struck speechless, amazed by the hulking shells,
both architectural and anthropological. I am currently living
in Brooklyn, although my plan is to return Michigan in February
(what a time to return to Michigan, eh?). The adjustment to
NYC has taken something out of me, but as we move into Fall,
I look forward to exploring THIS city's relics.
Just wanted to thank you. Juen Cybergrrl

Being noisy on the 'net one mourning I found
my childhood detailed on the screen. I had forgotten that a
part of me always were proud to say I am from Detroit, It was
easy, you marry, have kids a life but, their is a part of you
(a rowdy part of you) that wants what he saw as a kid on a saturday
mourning with his mother downtown that he knows his children
will never see, the details of a city your wife will never understand
because her view comes from a memory that fades from sadness.
But there It was, just like I said It was, all laid out very
well. I took my wife on a tour of me, the true me. There was
a gladness of showing her that despite It's faults this is my
home, this site brought back scenes of heartbreak and triumph.You
did a damn good job.